you know when lindsey graham and john mccain are saying that this is really crazy stuff, you know that there are people in the senate in the house that get it and want to avoid it. anybody on the defense side. everybody knows we have got to trim our sails but at least we should allow a secretary to make those decisions as opposed to this crazy across-the-board. >> governor, talking about the budget issue, your state is facing a budget deficit. you had to raise taxes in your state to sort of meets that budget deficit. what is the way forward for governors in this country who are facing similar scenarios and in other states that is not tenable. is this some kind of a mix of spending cuts and tax increases? >> i was the first democrat elected governor in 24 years, the first to serve in 20 years. the outgoing governor handed me a deficit on the same services budget larger on a per capita basis than any state in a nation representing 17% of revenue so there was no way out of it and quite frankly there was no way to tax your way out of it. we had to re-stacker relationship with their state e